I’m actually kinda over rock music…
-Tommy Lee
OK, I understand that people are sometimes misquoted. But come on…Tommy Lee loves digging himself into a hole time and time again. I admire artists who diversify themselves, but the truth is when Tommy “diversifies” it more often than not means he is hopping on a bandwagon for more glory. Does he really love dance music? Or is it just because no one in the rock world takes him seriously unless he's behind the drum kit in Motley Crue? He has jumped the shark so many times in his career, that I can not tell what he truly does and does not love anymore. Is he being genuine? I just can't tell.
As I have previously reported and written about extensively at antiMusic. I like Tommy, I really do and he’s an enormous talent. Heck, just a few weeks back I was having a conversation with someone about who really should be behind the skins if Led Zepplin ever reunited and there were arguments for Bonham’s son, Dave Grohl (who appeared to be everyone’s choice) and someone threw out Tommy’s name. He could have been a contender about fifteen-years ago, but he’s become a celebrity joke with about as much artistic credibility in the music industry as Lindsay Lohan and Paris Hilton. It’s a shame because Tommy would be killer backing Page, Plant and Jones…but it’ll never happen and it’s no one’s fault except Tommy’s. I’ve reprinted the interview below. This does not leave me hopeful for the next Motley Crue album.
The original article can be found here.
Tommy Lee & DJ Aero Talk to CP
by Emily Tan
Rock-god Tommy Lee doesn’t want you to watch. He wants you to dance.
The internationally celebrated rock ‘n roll icon has sublimated his ego and surrendered to the irresistible allure of synthesized beats, dirty electro basslines, and searing loopy melodies. Having achieved the pinnacle of success as a drummer with the bands Motley Crue, Rockstar Supernova and Methods Of Mayhem, Lee has decided to join fellow band-member, DJ Aero (born Chester Deitz), to embark on a career of DJing. Their debut at WMC’s Ultra Music Festival in 2004 took both rock and dance music worlds by storm. Dedicating themselves to the soul-wrenching, satiating sounds of electronic dance music, Lee and Aero are focused on DJing, and dance music production will soon follow.
New Yorkers will get a boost of adrenaline when Lee and Aero roll into town for a few dates, including an all-ages DJ set broadcast live on SIRIUS Satellite Radio’s “Area 33” at SIRIUS's NYC studios on Thursday, August 23rd from 8 – 10pm ET, and a club gig at Stereo By The Shore in the Hamptons on Friday, August 31st. Other New York-area gigs include a show at Bliss Lounge in Clifton, New Jersey. DJ Times journalist , SIRIUS Radio host, and long-time Clubplanet contributor, Emily Tan, caught-up with Tommy Lee and DJ Aero on their North American Electro Mayhem Tour to gain behind-the-scenes insight into their musical states-of-mind.
Emily Tan: Tommy, was there a moment where you first fell in love with electronic music, and is there a split between rock and dance fans who come to see you DJ?
Tommy Lee: At our L.A. Forum gig, there were 6,000 people, and everyone was dancing their asses off! I’ve always loved dance music, even back in the disco era.
DJ Aero: The last few gigs, we’ve been playing to dance people, not people who come expecting to hear Tommy play Motley Crue tracks or a Methods Of Mayhem set. I feel the tide changing in terms of fans coming to see us. With this tour, it’s very much focused on dance music. A lot of people think we can’t DJ; that’s not true.
Tan: Which DJs do you like?
Lee: I like Benny Benassi, Adam Freeland, Erick Morillo…Erick and I’ve done a couple of things together. I can’t believe it’s such a shock that I like dance music, because any time I’ve done anything with drums, I’ve always incorporated electro shit, always, always, always! When I’m at home, dance music is all I listen to! I’m actually kinda over rock music…
Aero: I really like Erick Morillo, too, and Donald Glaude, Simply Jeff, and Adam Freeland. I also still love hip-hop; anything by Wu-Tang Clan, EZ Elpee, Portishead…
Tan: Tommy, did you just say you’re over rock?
Lee: I really am! If I sit-down to write a song, it’s definitely gonna have beats…but, just the old drum sound or cheesy rock guitars…I’m just like, ugh! I’m just tired of the same-ole.
Tan: If electronic music producers can incorporate rock guitars and other rock-inspired sounds into their dance music, why can’t a rockstar play electronic music, right?
Lee: Totally! You know what I just heard today? It’s a band from Australia called Silverchair; they’re a rock band and I heard it from radio. They have a track called “Straight Lines,” and it’s a remix waiting to happen!
Tan: When did you first become inspired to dabble in electronic dance music?
Lee: I think working on the Methods Of Mayhem project, which was a hybrid, rock-techno-industrial-metal thing…I wanted to combine all of those styles and put them on one record. I had everyone from Snoop Dogg to the guy from the Crystal Method, to Kid Rock, to George Clinton, to the Wu-Tang Clan! That project was in ’99-2000. I didn’t just wanna be this one-dimensional “rock-guy.”
Tan: Aero, did you get into the ‘90’s West Coast rave scene?
Aero: Yeah, I saw Doc Martin, Barry Weaver, QBert, Short Kut, Mixmaster Mike, the Invisibl Skratch Piklz…all the great DJs. That’s when I discovered other genres besides hip-hop. I wasn’t into the hard-house, four-on-the-floor sound; I was more into the samples that I recognized from hip-hop being manipulated into new music with a heavy bass and crazy synth noises. I started throwing techno parties in my town, and as the breaks scene died-out, I started playing deep-house. I went to those crazy raves in L.A.
Tan: Who taught you how to DJ, Tommy?
Lee: I just started touching turntables and that was my turning-point. I was like, I wanna do this! Aero’s taught me a lot, and Mixmaster Mike’s also inspired me a lot. You realize all these things are possible, musically.
Tan: Aero, how long have you been a professional DJ?
Aero: Since 1999.
Tan: What was the first gig you played?
Aero: It was in Vancouver with the Methods Of Mayhem. Tommy and I met through Mixmaster Mike, who was the DJ. Mike was going out on-tour with the Beastie Boys and he couldn’t make the tour, so they needed a replacement. I sent a video of me scratching to Tommy and Tilo, and I got the job.
Tan: Tommy, is there an aspect of DJing that satisfies you as a musician, whereas you don’t find the same fulfillment playing in a band?
Lee: Yeah, it’s the sounds. You sit there and you play a rock concert, and it’s loud ‘n banging. But the electronic sound hits so much harder and there’s something about the bass [in electronic music] that freaks me out! If you go to a club, you’ll find me standing in front of the sub-woofers! [laughs] That’s something that comes from DJing that I don’t get from playing rock music, that big bass and gorgeous analog sound. Those sounds don’t come from drums or guitars…those sounds only come from electronic drums or synthesizers! It’s a whole new set of sounds you can’t get with a rock band. Listen, I love rock. But with electronic, I get to taste all the flavors.
Tan: I never would’ve thought Tommy Lee was such an electronic music enthusiast. Do you mind being called a “celebrity DJ?”
Lee: [moans] I fucking hate the celeb-DJ shit. My feelings get hurt. Some stupid tabloid mentioned me and Lindsay Lohan as being “celebrity DJs.” Don’t even put her with me in the same sentence.
Tan: Aero, where are you from and what DJs influenced you early in your career?
Aero: I grew-up in Victorville, California, 80 miles north of L.A. Growing-up, I played techno parties. I listened to hip-hop and loved Jazzy Jeff; he was a big influence. He was the first DJ I saw scratching. Let’s face it, when you first start DJing, you wanna scratch!
Tan: Tommy, do you ever feel as though people doubt your sincerity as a DJ?
Lee: I’m not DJing for any other reason than because I love it! When I’m sitting at a drum machine making beats, I’m in my happiest state ever. I could literally die. My close friends who come see us DJ, they’re like, “Dude, when you DJ, you go into your own world!” That’s true.
Tan: What’s your DJ booth setup and what do you do onstage?
Lee: Aero does beat-mapping on Serato [Scratch LIVE] and CDs. Everything goes through my computer first, back to the mixer, then out to the crowd. I do the effects – delays, panning, flanging, stutter editing – on my keyboard, where if it’s a vocal, you can grab a word and manipulate it. All the crazy shit you hear is coming from my computer. As far as delays and stutter edits, I do all of that through Artillery. Whenever it feels right, I’ll join-in on an Alesis control pad, with eight pads of amazing drum sounds and assorted weirdness that I’ll play when I’m feelin’ it. Mainly big, fat, electronic drums are in the pads. I’ve gotta have my paws on everything.
Aero: Tommy and I go through a bunch of tracks we usually get through Beatport or TrackItDown.net from the UK. We use Serato Scratch LIVE and control it with our CDJ-1000s. We also use an Akai MPC-1000 as a drum source.
Tan: Do you have an acoustic drumkit as part of your setup?
Lee: No.
Aero: It’s just two guys standing in front of a crowd.
Tan: What about visuals?
Lee: We’re running two Pioneer DVJ-1000s and the mixer. We’ve basically taken-over all the controls, including visuals. Give us a feed to the projectors, give us a feed to the house soundsystem, and everybody, back-up! [laughs] We haven’t had any massive trainwrecks…but, we did have one debacle at the Jersey shore where the telephone pole outside the club caught fire and the fire department came and cut the power. The club had run extra power-lines up through the phone pole…
Tan: What’s something spontaneous you’ve done, lately?
Lee: Aero and I sometimes just walk into a place, unannounced…and just plug-in and play. I’m not doing this for the money! I’m DJing because I absolutely love this shit. On Thanksgiving at Mynt, next to my place, Rokbar, in Miami, we showed-up and just plugged-in to DJ. We thought no one would be there because it was Thanksgiving, but we got to the place and it was wall-to-wall! I really like that club, Mynt. They have all these video walls and the place is sexy.
Tan: Few DJs can afford to do a bus tour of North America, like you’re doing. Do you tailor your shows to each city?
Lee: Yeah! We make visits to local spots. Like, we’ll sit in a diner in Philadelphia and film it, burn it to DVD and play it out that night in the club with the DVJ-1000s. We personalize our show for every city.
Tan: Is there a downside to your fame when you’re DJing?
Lee: Well, you’ve got the Motley fans, you’ve got the Tommy Lee fans, and the dance kids in there. I like it, because it’s been my goal to get everyone to have fun together. I’d be so much happier if all the cameras were put away, though. Sometimes, the lighting guys are like, “What kind of lights do you want?” I’m like, “Please do not put a spotlight on me!” If I don’t get a chance to tell them before the show and they put a bright spotlight on me, I ask [my tour manager] to put the spotlight on the kids.
Tan: Have you been to Ibiza?
Lee: I went for four or five days with Erick Morillo two years ago. I was like, “Wow, you’re a big pimp on Ibiza!” [laughs] We had a great time. Ibiza’s like Vegas-on-steroids! You DJ until 7 or 8 o’clock in the morning, and then everyone packs-up their shit and there are more speakers down on the beach. After four days, I had to go. [laughs]
Tan: Besides Morillo, which other DJs do you like?
Lee: Mr. Oizo, have you heard his shit? He’s not a really popular DJ, but he makes some crazy sounds. You must get the record, “Analog Worms Attack.” What an amazing record! Uberzone also does some great remixes. I just met and am really looking forward to working with a producer named Neil McLellan; he produces the Prodigy.
Tan: How is your DJ performance evolving?
Lee: When I play rhythm on electronic pads, I wanna be able to fire video from the pads via MIDI! We’re trying to find the right software to make it happen. Can you imagine if video shoots-out when you hit the pad?
Tan: What can we look forward to, from you and Aero?
Lee: Original dance tracks, soon! There are some remixes on my computer that are awesome. It feels to me like the world’s moving in the direction of people really wanting solid, great music to dance to. There’s no rock track that’s blowin’ my skirt-up, but I feel it with dance music.
Aero: It’s special to see Tommy in a whole different light, where his passion is for digital and dance music. After this tour’s done, we’ll be playing Electro Mayhem shows every weekend in the fall and winter. We’re never gonna stop.
Photo Credit: Sanctuary Artist Management & CEG Talent, 2007
Bon Jovi's new video, for "Lost Highway" is making its rounds on the net and can be found here. My thoughts and impressions? Color me profoundly unimpressed. Writer Chuck Klosterman said it best in his tummy aching book of metal and wit, Fargo Rock City; he christened the Jersey rockers as the "Jedi Masters" of video making. Back in the day Bon Jovi was never the most original band, but what they had going for them that few other bands had was heart. They fought their battles together and truly believed in everything they did. These days (no pun intended) the band releases one forgettable video after another. I liked the "Say It Isn't So" video and the well intentioned clip for "Who Says You Can't Go Home" at least did something beneficial by building homes for those who needed it, but still, the band reaped a lot of rewards for their good Samaritan clip. But almost everything they have done for the better part of a decade lacks depth and imagination...and most importantly vision. They are no longer Jedi Masters and instead have become forgettable creatures in the background of the cantina. They've put away their lightsabers for the flashier blaster guns.
